Help needed. Bravo T-jet

[blackbox]

My bravo T-jet having some vibration problem and send to Good Work for checking. They told me my right hand side driveshaft need to replace and the cost is around RM3,000. Anyone know where to source for cheaper parts? BTW my car already exceeded 40,000KM which have no more warranty.

Thanks in advance.

[bravosx]

40k kms and driveshaft kaput already?

[zambug]

One driveshaft is RM3000? Costing more than a timing belt change? That's crazy

[UlysseNuovo]

Why not check with Autoconnexion, Bravo might share the same drive shaft as Mito?

[blackbox]

40k kms and driveshaft kaput already?

Yalor, partly is due to my driving style, (Floor the pedal and maximize the potential of my bella during coenering) but no regret

Another reason is due to the manufacturer fault. Good Work told me when he open the bearing he found that the bearing with very little grease and the grease is kind of dry. So, advice for all Bravo T-jet owner, try to grease your drive shaft before too late.

-- Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:48 pm --

One driveshaft is RM3000? Costing more than a timing belt change? That's crazy

Might not even have stock. Not even Torino.

-- Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:50 pm --

Why not check with Autoconnexion, Bravo might share the same drive shaft as Mito?

That is an excelent advice which I almost forget. UN, you are a STAR.

[UlysseNuovo]

Haha, you current problem will help others in the future that might have the same problem .

[beary]

whats ur VIN no. maybe i can cross check if mito using the same part

[maranello red]

This was mentioned in fiatforums.com:

"I had a similar problem, which took several months to diagnose.

It turned out to be a worn driveshaft - there is a 'boot' part way along the driveshaft on the drivers side which can split and leak its grease, meaning the joint runs dry and wears out.

I had to have this replaced (not cheap), and the car is now perfectly smooth.

Main symptom was shuddering through the floor when accellerating at 50-65 mph (felt like the front wheels were loose!)

I'd say get this checked asap if it's still under warranty."

I am having the same problem now and trying to sort the drive shaft too...my milage is 66,600km (looks like Ah Jin's diagnosis is spot on)

[blackbox]

This was mentioned in fiatforums.com:

"I had a similar problem, which took several months to diagnose.

It turned out to be a worn driveshaft - there is a 'boot' part way along the driveshaft on the drivers side which can split and leak its grease, meaning the joint runs dry and wears out.

I had to have this replaced (not cheap), and the car is now perfectly smooth.

Main symptom was shuddering through the floor when accellerating at 50-65 mph (felt like the front wheels were loose!)

I'd say get this checked asap if it's still under warranty."

I am having the same problem now and trying to sort the drive shaft too...my milage is 66,600km (looks like Ah Jin's diagnosis is spot on)

Since when this happen? Ah Jin didn't told me about it. It took him sometime to find out this problem. I think we should tell the others if this is somethings that will eventually happen to them.

Please keep me update where to get the parts.

[maranello red]

Bro, I just discovered the entry above at fiatforums.com (which is a UK fiat forum).

I went to see him this afternoon after experiencing the shuddering through the floor for the past 1 week...after a short test drive that was his (Ah Jin's) conclusion...and I only discovered the entry at fiatforums much later...

Will keep you informed...

[gtfan]

My advise, always go underneath your car when it's on hoist or doing alignment, check the cv boot. Lowered car tends to tear the rubber boot and cause the grease to leak out and worst, debris like sand and water will cause havoc to the drive shaft which will end up in expensive repair.

This doesn't applies to only fiat or alfa but other makes too.

Sometimes, mechanic when you ask them to give a visual check, they are not bother. Best is to check yourself.

I remember our coupe used to have this issues when the car is lowered. Every year, the CV boot will pecah, but most of the time, i caught it first before any harm to it. Now my ride is back to normal height and no issue with cv boot tearing.

Yes, i do heard from Torino regarding the bravo issue with the driveshaft. With the torino sales coming next week, why not try your luck in sourcing there or perhaps singapore.

[pistole]

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- iirc , worse case scenario , the driveshaft CV joint can be re-built.

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[blackbox]

whats ur VIN no. maybe i can cross check if mito using the same part

My VIN no. is ZFA19800004107741. How you manage to do that? Through any web site?
iirc your millege his much higher than mine, you have this kind of problem?
Anyway thanks for your help.

-- Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:05 pm --

My advise, always go underneath your car when it's on hoist or doing alignment, check the cv boot. Lowered car tends to tear the rubber boot and cause the grease to leak out and worst, debris like sand and water will cause havoc to the drive shaft which will end up in expensive repair.

This doesn't applies to only fiat or alfa but other makes too.

Sometimes, mechanic when you ask them to give a visual check, they are not bother. Best is to check yourself.

I remember our coupe used to have this issues when the car is lowered. Every year, the CV boot will pecah, but most of the time, i caught it first before any harm to it. Now my ride is back to normal height and no issue with cv boot tearing.

Yes, i do heard from Torino regarding the bravo issue with the driveshaft. With the torino sales coming next week, why not try your luck in sourcing there or perhaps singapore.

You means Torino know about this issue and they just keep quiet and do nothing?
I think Good Work already check with Torino but they have no stock.
I already check at some online store at UK but no reply yet.
Will try Singapore but haven't got any contact.

[gtfan]

Call tanly or leeco singapore. The number should be in the workshop discussion.

[beary]

whats ur VIN no. maybe i can cross check if mito using the same part

My VIN no. is ZFA19800004107741. How you manage to do that? Through any web site?
iirc your millege his much higher than mine, you have this kind of problem?
Anyway thanks for your help.

sorry for late reply.

yup, my milage is near to 83k. after reading this post i feel like im having the problem. this weekend need to disect my car d...
only problem is my sunroof shade, need to find tailor to stitch it

I recently download ePER 5.11.0 with latest info on parts and pricing in Euro till 08-2009 and also eLearn for Bravo so you can DIY.
if interested, you can have a DVD copy (its Windows base, not Mac)

oh btw, Bravo TJet waterpump is the same Grande Punto.

looks like our TJet doesnt share the same drive shaft with Mito TJet.

your TJet shaft, whole

your TJet part of the shaft

Mito TJet shaft

[maranello red]

Apparently, the cost is not as high as Torino quoted RM3K??
Its only around RM1400 but still costly.

And yes the driveshaft can be rebuilt and will cost around RM550 but to find someone in Malaysia to do it is another question?
And if this is your everyday car then is gonna be difficult to take it and get it reconditioned...

[blackbox]

whats ur VIN no. maybe i can cross check if mito using the same part

My VIN no. is ZFA19800004107741. How you manage to do that? Through any web site?
iirc your millege his much higher than mine, you have this kind of problem?
Anyway thanks for your help.

sorry for late reply.

yup, my milage is near to 83k. after reading this post i feel like im having the problem. this weekend need to disect my car d...
only problem is my sunroof shade, need to find tailor to stitch it

I recently download ePER 5.11.0 with latest info on parts and pricing in Euro till 08-2009 and also eLearn for Bravo so you can DIY.
if interested, you can have a DVD copy (its Windows base, not Mac)

oh btw, Bravo TJet waterpump is the same Grande Punto.

looks like our TJet doesnt share the same drive shaft with Mito TJet.

What happen to your sunroof? The "netting" on top of the sunroof came off? I have this problem, but fixed it with double sided tape and it still hold.

By the way mind to share where you download this software? It can be very useful.

[blackbox]

Apparently, the cost is not as high as Torino quoted RM3K??
Its only around RM1400 but still costly.

And yes the driveshaft can be rebuilt and will cost around RM550 but to find someone in Malaysia to do it is another question?
And if this is your everyday car then is gonna be difficult to take it and get it reconditioned...

So, you actually found the parts? RM1,400 is a bit costly but what to do?
Rebuilt the drive shaft can be a another option, I don't mind to borrow a car from somewhere if it can be fixed in few days time. So where did you get the rebuilding cost if no one in Malaysia know how to do it?
Actually after Ah Jin refill the grease it behave much better, as long as I don't drive too aggressive at 80kmh to 100kmh range, at least I have more time to find the parts.

[CieMen]

i had mine replaced both sides....but under warranty...

maybe too much sepang track made the driveshafts kaput'ed faster...

[blackbox]

i had mine replaced both sides....but under warranty...

maybe too much sepang track made the driveshafts kaput'ed faster...

Good for you.

I think need to inform others before their drive shaft damage.

[beary]

you can get the ePER from here
http://rapidshare.com/users/TXC57

[maranello red]

Apparently, after confirming with Singapore counterparts, noted that part no. 3 is not refurbishable as it is cast iron. Therefore, for peace of mind, it is advisable to change the entire item 3 and 1. Since item 3 alone costs slightly >S$600, it is estimated the entire item 1 & 3 to cost around RM3000 (after taxes & delivery)...some S'porean owners have just refurbished the ball bearings to third party makes if the cast iron item no. 3 is not worn out.

It appears this is a bad case of NOT packing enough grease (from factory) into the CV joint. Since mine occurred after warranty, I have no choice but to pay the price.

Worse case scenario: if the wearing off is bad, there is a possibility the joint may give way...and if it occurs while driving, the entire thing may hit the bottom including oil sump and damage may be worst..(this is what I got from Ah Jin of Goodwork Auto)

[beary]

hmmmm does anyone found the best solution how to source this part? or u guys already bought a replacement part?

[maranello red]

I got my entire right side drive shaft changed at Goodwork Auto...problem solved.

[beary]

So Its rm3k and how long have to wait for the parts and they keep the car overnite?

[maranello red]

Its a half days job..probably even shorter if there are no cars...parts need to contact them to source out first..or you can call Singapore Tanly, Alfa Sportivo or Leeco...